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much so. mitt romney's best moments in that debate came when he talked about patriotic grace. when he talked about bipartisanship, his ability to work with democrats, how patriotism should leaven our understanding of politics so that we can get things done. it was lyrical and lovely. especially for someone who doesn't excel it back like mitt romney. that is what people want. they want to see people working again and leadership that allows that to happen. what joe biden was saying, was very much what we heard over the debate of the stimulus when obama came into office, and over his 2010 health law. we won, elections have consequences, you lose, you are repudiated. that is not what voters want to hear. they want to hear the patriotic grades. megyn: one viewer wrote to us and said the old man tried to push around a kid and the kid tried to stand his ground. was it just a spirited politician? forcefully advocating for his position? peter johnson junior will be here momentarily. we will be asking him about that and we will play more from the vice presidential debate see you can make up you
-ryan ticket has been less than truthful. >> are you saying governor romney lied or was dishonest? >> i think he was dishonest, absolutely. plenty of people pointed out what a liar mitt romney was. if he was talking he was speaking last night he was lying. >> i think that we expected an aggressive debater to show up last night on the debate stage with barack obama. we didn't expect an aggressively dishonest debater to show up and that what we got with mitt romney. >> many people are situation they saw was the governor romney they had known all along and what's been the problem in the past is they haven't seen that person and he finally emerged during the debates. >> are you saying he lied through his teeth in the republican primaries where he said he will cut taxes for wealthy people? >> he's the etch a sketch guy and he transformed himself. we always have to wonder which mitt will show up. if you lay out lie after lie after lie about your tone plan as well as what the president is talking about of course you can look good. megyn: ben le bolt, the national press secretary for obama. let me ta
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